Comments on: Silverleaf Resorts isnt all that bad?

By: kk

kk — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:07:34 +0000

So am I already screwed if I just scheduled myself for one of the “90 minute tours” ?

It irritated me when some Stefan Pickrell insisted that I repeat the confirmation phone number back to him 2-3 times. I became even more suspicious than I was in the first place.

This was for Fox something Resorts but my postcard came from Silverleaf Resorts and I asked the original girl on the phone about Silverleaf she stumbled. Red flag?

I mean in the back of my mind what made me call them back after their 3rd or 8th post card was “hey people win publisher’s clearing house and the lottery right? maybe…” But this blog/commentary has really scared me.

Nothing is sacred anymore! Trust no one, nothing is free, cynicism is safest. Gah.

So anyone have answers am I screwed already for agreeing to go visit the property? How did they even get my info. I should change my name, move, and never go online ever again. Checks are the way to pay bills I guess and never purchase clothes online! jesus

By: Mother with sick child, need to get out

Mother with sick child, need to get out — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:56:38 +0000

My problem doesn’t seem to be addressed in any of these posts. I am a divorced mother of two, coming out of bankruptcy due to the divorce. I have WORKED HARD to get my credit back up to good standings, it has been a struggle. I received my postcard at the beginning of my bankruptcy and thought this might be a good thing to have for my children. Also, it would help me build my credit. I signed and have been an Oak n’ Spruce owner for about 6 years. As time went on, I ran into many things which told me that I made a huge mistake by buying this. I’ve tried getting bonus time, sat and waited until 7PM Friday for an opening…..DENIED. I keep getting called out to the resort for my Owner’s Meeting “ask any questions you may have, bring two forms of ID and we’ll give you $75″…. this meeting is not for my benefit. It’s a sales pressure meeting to buy more “product”. Once I even had a guy roll his eyes at me when I said I can’t buy anything else. Every time I go in, I explain that I’m struggling and need to see if there’s anyway Silverleaf can take this back…. JUST TAKE IT BACK, and sell it to someone else. Every time they tell me they can lower my monthly payments by… get this….. BUYING A SECOND WEEK!!!!!!!! They want me to commit to giving them thousands more dollars, just after I tell them I’m going without to take care of my children. I don’t own a home, paycheck to paycheck. I’m not buying a second week and they know this…. so needless to say I’m on the bottom of the s**t bucket. I’ve never missed a payment, yet I’m eating ramen noodles daily. Since I signed, I’ve had a few catastrophies which require more of my stretched income, including a major car accident and my youngest son diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes. I can’t believe that this company doesn’t have a way to release people like me of this obligation…. they’d sooner let a HARD-WORKING MOTHER OF TWO GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP. They won’t work with me on even making the payments easier, the DO NOT REFINANCE… “we just don’t do that”. Bottom line, when I first signed on to this, things were much better. I have been presented with hardships and cannot afford the $320 a month this company is getting from me… still after all these years…. OH, AND ANOTHER THING… when I did first sign, I WAS TOLD THAT THIS WOULD INCREASE IN VALUE!!!!!!!! THEY NEVER TOLD ME THAT I’D HAVE TO KEEP BUYING/UPGRADING FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. I HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO BUY MORE, AND NOW I’M TOLD BY TIMESHARE RESELL COMPANIES THAT FOR WHAT I STILL OWE COMPARED TO WHAT IT’S WORTH, I’M SCREWED. I think there should be a Class Action Suit about the scam tactics to get someone to sign. The fact that this week that I own is almost worthless when they told me it would increase in value is GROUNDS ENOUGH FOR A SUIT. I am speaking with my lawyer on this now. Wish me luck. Thanks for listening.

By: mk

mk — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:23:19 +0000

Does anybody realize that one of the posts on this is the President of the company’s son? It is pretty bad if your own son says you are all theives.

By: For real?

For real? — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:40:36 +0000

Holy cow! I really hope those posts from ex-employees are really unhappy customers trying to make the company look bad. I, too, am an ex employee and I can tell you, I feel really bad for all the unhappy people. I worked for SLR for 5 years and yes, I dealt with a large amount of unhappy members but I dealt with many more happy. LAnd I worked hard to make the unhappy members more comfortable with what they purchased. (I did notice that most unhappy people were those that struggled financially and always wondered why would you buy this if you can’t afford it?.) I was not involved in sales or customer service. My job was to assist members in reserving their deeded week and bonus time reservations. I did a lot of educating people on how to get the most use out of what they own. If you buy into the off-season, you are only entitled to go during the off-season (blue color time), if you purchase prime season (red) then you’re eligible for year round use. SLR is the only company that even offers the option of bonus stays-free during the week, small cost for weekend (had to start charging because demand became so great). Trust me, lots and lots and LOTS of people use this free time. There are people who can take advantage of this program more than others, ie retired and self employed individuals because they can easily vacation during the off season. If you are a teacher or work in a tourist industry and have only a short window of time that you are able to take vacation then your chances of using this program are more limited. Just think about it, each unit has a different owner for each week of the year. If those owners use the week that they purchase then of course there will not be a spot you can use for free. If someone chooses not to use the week they own and do not arrange an exchange, allowing someone else to stay there, then instead of leaving the unit empty for the week, the company hands it over for a bonus time stay. Most families will use the vacation weeks in the summer and holiday seasons. It’s the off-season that gives you the best chances of getting a stay. Just calm down and ask someone how it really works. Most people in the company want you to be happy and wouldn’t mind walking you through the process. Of course, I’m writing this assuming you have gotten past the “predatory sales person”.

By: Deanna

Deanna — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:31:31 +0000

You folks are mean people who write this crap. and you are the real problem.

By: Deanna

Deanna — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:29:15 +0000

Guys this is really dumb. I have worked many placed over the years and I have to say that Hill country is just fine. we are not mistreated or abused. It is a typical sale company that requires people to show up and do there job. they pay well and feed you free food every week. they treat everyone fine. I would not still be there if they did not. Just so you know the ones that leasve just could not make it happen and that is nt the companies fault. Most employees leave owing the company many advanced bucks. I have to say the drugs that I heard are used is a joke! I work with older men and two of them are pasters at a chruch. Silverleaf also works on Sunday so the paster come in to the resort and we pray and sing together every sunday.get a life people out of all the years that I have been in sale I have never seen a company that puts no pressure on you to buy this. I promise you mostr leave with a hug from the rep and a phone number to keep in touch. This is the real truth.

Deanna

By: All con artists MUST DIE

All con artists MUST DIE — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:12:09 +0000

WOW! DIRTLE… There is an old saying: Don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s rainin’! You know, I hate to stoop to insults, but it is after all, the only language you types understands. That said… what an incredibly ridiculous burden to humanity you are. I truly pity pseudo-sub-humans like you. The ones who would commit blanket genocide for a buck if they could get away with it (their own mothers included). These sad creatures are born without the part of the brain that makes the rest of us decent, and … they are the prime reason for all that is and ever was wrong with the world. Two things… ASS! 1. Any idiot can practice and become adept at making shit up to tell people what they want to hear for a buck. Thankfully most of us choose to get real jobs with dignity. Unfortunately, human nature makes lying the easiest gig devised. So don’t pat yourself on the back just yet for living high on the hog with social blood-money. This don’t make you right, it simply makes you a crook without a legacy. You’re not strong, you’re simply a champion BS artist NM, NL!! And as a professional (con artist), within any business, it is always easy to lie to and convince the layman not privy to the tricks of the trade. This doesn’t make them weak for being everyday, normal and wholly decent people trying to enjoy life in peace, it simply makes you a narcissistic, egocentric, and insane oxygen thief to all viable existence. 2. As a con-artist , I’m sure you are familiar with what is known as a tell. Well, I hope you realize that your very comments shows your tell in glaring detail. They reveal in loud true colors of how not only you… but (and I guarantee), many other like-minded septic-tank dwellers of Silver leaf Resorts think. Speaking of genocide, If I could commit it just once, I like to take all beasts like you along with terrorists and other sadists, stick em’ on a giant space shuttle and slowly shoot them into the SUN. Accept in you alls case, it wouldn’t really be genocide, but rather… paracide LOL. Then, and only then, can the rest of us finally work together, in peace to fix the damage you’ve done and then really party like hell!! WHEW! OK, I will step off my soap box now.

P.S. Since we can’t put em’ all on a shuttle bound for the sun, then we really need to get together and sue these people. SERIOUSLY

By: jeremy b

jeremy b — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:47:00 +0000

just about every thing we do is illegal. at every resort from texas to massachusetts. it it wrong we are all going to hell. but lets keep making money and my mommy happy. bring the cup home baby. i love you allen.

By: Ex Employee

Ex Employee — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:44:21 +0000

As of Sunday I have quit my job at Hill Country. I was treated like shit; I was nothing but the dirt on their shoe. I would say hello to one of the managers (one in particular) he would snub his nose at me and not say a word. Hospitality would bring in food for the weekend to serve the guests and all the managers and sales reps would eat the food. Everyone was able to take the food, all but the support staff (total of 4 people) including me. Their reason was to conserve the food for the guests. I would sit at my desk hungry and had to watch others eat the food in front of me, even the Boss and the very same person who told me I would get fired on the spot for touching the food.
I witnessed first hand as a new sale was taking place, the new owners would skip a signature or an initial of their legal signature, the VO director would then forge the documents filling in the missing signatures or initials so they could make sure the contract could go out that week and wouldn’t lose money.
I seen elderly people many times having to walk through the building with oxygen tanks, when in the next room was filled with cigarette smoke while Mr. O’ Conner came in to visit…as well as some of the managers smoking in their offices, not only in that building but also the new sales department in the contracts office.
Think they really care about their guests or employees? I don’t think so.
I would work many overtime hours without overtime pay…but if I take an hour to handle some personal business then I OWED them that hour more on the job….I would always have to owe them time and it was tough shit if they owned me any time which they did. Silverleaf is a shithole place to work and I finally have had it…life is too short to take this abuse anymore.
The bosses there have this big power trip thing going…they think it’s ok to yell at you like a child and break you down til you cry losing your dignity. They don’t care what life you have outside of Silverleaf, they believe they own your ass as long as you work for them and they can treat you anyway they want. Even if it means lying to make sure you are at fault.
$8 an hour just isn’t worth that shit.

By: dirtle

dirtle — Wed, 28 May 2008 14:46:09 +0000

wow,people really are stupid. most of you cant even spell corectly.Listen up im a former employee as well,sure they work you like a dog. long hours,no lunch breaks,etc…,if you do not like it leave. as they say you were lookin for a job before u found this one.go somewhere else and work u dumbfuck its an oporitunity not a summons.and by the way the program works you just need to know how to operate it. and as far as (HIGH PRESSURE SALES OR TACTICS GO). IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, DONT BUY IT.PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS SHIT ARE STUPID AND WEAK.i personally made anywhere from$ 1500 to$ 5000 A WEEK consistantly they pay well for the hours. in closing i just want everybody to know that S.L. is agood co. you work hard and long but u get paid well.(very well)to provide a service to the consumers. if these consumers do not see the value or benefits ofthe program THEN DONT BUY IT YOU FUCKING MORON.nobody put a gun to your head. your just PATHETIC and WEAK and cant make up your own mind. its not the “ritz” you can tell by the condos its just a nice quiet place to go for family or for a nice romantic getaway.with several places to go.and their prices are a whole lot lower than any of the competitors.SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE U COMPLAINING ABOUT WORK THERE OR DONT, BUY THERE OR DONT THE choice IS YOURS ,NO ONE ELSE U WEAKSUCK SON-OF -A-BITCH-PEACE OUT BITCHES.dp -