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I JUST RECEIVE THE SAME LETTER WITH A DIFFERENT PHONE NUMBER WISH IS 1-800-309-8595 IF YA THINK ITS REAL GO AHEAD CAUSE IM TELLING YOU PEOPLE IS A FREAKING HUGE SCAM AND THEY SHOULD PAY FOR DOING SHIT LIKES THIS TO PEOPLE FOR REAL?

THANK YOU I JUST GOT TODAY THE SAME LETTER WISH HAS ANOTHER NUMBER WISH IS 1-800-309-8595 DONT NO ONE FALL FOR IT IS A BIG SCAM,YOU WILL BE BROKE IN MINUTES THAT WONT BE NO FUN TRUST M,E?>

I received the same first notice that many of you are familiar with,
Searched the web for any pertinent information and found many complaints including those here, and trashed the first paper.
Then I received the blue card, which went straight into file thirteen.
Then I received the yellow "final notice," and went back to check the complaints again.
Which is when I decided, "well I'm going to try it."

Other than time, what can I lose, I'm not going to buy anything from them and I would estimate that I have about the same, or better, odds of winning as I would have with buying a state lottery "scratch and sniff."

I procrastinated several times over the next couple of days and very nearly didn't go.
Especially after I received the "invitation" that would get me into the resort.
In the fine print included with this invitation, I read on the back that!
There was "one" $49,000 prize that would be awarded.
There was "ten" $1,500 shopping sprees that would be awarded.
There was "twenty" $500 cash prizes that would be awarded.
There was 53,130 of the "instant gold" scratch and sniff cards issued.

Gathering this information, it is easily determined that there is one grand prize to be awarded, ten second prizes, 53,099 third prizes to be awarded and twenty of the "minimum" prizes to be awarded.
The scam and hook is that the average person receiving this "invitation" is going to look at the "minimum" prize of $500, and generally conclude that.
"Well, I'm going to "at least" receive 500 bucks for taking a couple of hour trip, and listening to a couple of hour sales pitch."

WRONG!
The "prize" that you are virtually guaranteed to receive is one valued "purportedly" at over 800 bucks.
Hey! That's a good thing.
Until you really consider all the options.
That prize valued at over $800 is in actuality a prize that "IS GOING TO COST YOU,"
Air fare to the islands where you will receive "free" hotel accomodations for five days and four nights.
How much is air fare to Hawaii from where you live?
At least $436 from Houston to Hawaii, which doesn't include "having any fun or seeing any sights while there.
To top that off, you have to pay 100 bucks up front just to confirm the reservations, and $179 per person for government fees and taxes.
So for two people I have to pay "at least" $964, to receive the $806 prize.
In my personal opinion, you haven't received a "prize" when it is something that you have to pay more for than what the prize is actually worth.
And with this, that is exactly what you have to do.
Pay more to actually get the prize than what the prize is actually worth.

I have hotel accomodations for two in Aruba, Oahu, Maui, Montego bay, or San Juan that must be "confirmed" within 60 days, that can be used any time within the next year;
And
I have a 4 night island cruise for two on one of the princess cruises, that must be confirmed in 60 and used within the next year.

I "WILL NOT" be using them.
Anyone interested in a vacation trip to Hawaii for two,
or an island cruise?
Who has the money to fly to Hi in order to get the free hotel accomodations,
or etc.?
I could be easily talked out of these "valuable" vacation packages that "have no names listed on the paper work," and can thus be transfered to another party.
Or I can use the paper work as a fire starter.

hello yesterday i received the same thing. And now i already call them but i didn't give them my personal number i would like to know if i run any problem because i stopped with that now .
And thanks you so much i didn t look first online that s was my mistake!

i got this letter in the mail too, because i filled out this thing at the Galleria Mall in Houston where you'de win some appetizers at the Rainforest Cafe. worst idea ever since now they call my cell nonstop. malakas do you really think people believe this shit? no!!!!

**********************BEWARE THIS IS A SCAM!**********************

Thank you for the internet!!! I got one of these letters and called them. Man they were nice on the phone.....I knew it was scam and they got one hell of a bitching!!! Im so sick of people like this. I WILL BE FILING A COMPLAINT!!!! My letter doesnt say on there "This material is used for the purpose of soliciting timeshare sales." I dont see how they sleep at night.

Actually it does! Look at it again. It is worded a little differently.

My husband and I would like to get out of it and we need your help. Will give you a call.

Well, I did fill out an entry card at the mall, and they called me, Stating I "WON". LOL SO i dragged my husband with me, and we went in with an open mind. The facility was not bad, but they were pressuring us bad. I just wanted my prizes. I did get the cruise and 4night hotel stay in Aruba. So, their goal is to tell you the prize, and once they got you cornered, They push you and pressure you. The salesmen are pretty DARN GOOD. I was about to just buy the damn thing so they'd leave me alone. haha! But my husband said, "Sorry guys, and My wife and I gotta go." He stood up and we went off to get my little prizes they promised me. Ill post after I take my vacations, and let you know if all went well. THX Silverleaf in Conroe, Texas

OK I NEVER GOT THE BLUE POSTCARD. ITS A WHITE PIECE OF PAPER THAT IS TITLED 49,000 CASH GIVEAWAY AND IT HAS THE PIONEER ARLINGTON ADDRESS ON IT. IT TALKS ABOUT THE CARS, MONEY,SHOPPING SPREE,ADVENTURE.

OK THAT MUCH IS SIMILAR BUT I DO REMEMBER THE SIGNING UP. IT EVEN HAS THE SAME SLIP SIGNED WITH THE SIGNATURE. I DIDNT BELIEVE IT AT FIRST CAUSE I HAD SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.

I AM GOING ON SATURDAY BUT THANKS TO THIS I WILL BE ON MY GUARD. I WILL STOP COMPLETELY IF THEY ASK FOR MONEY OR SIGNING ANYTHING. THANK YOU AND THE INTERNET IS GREAT

Im confused im the type of person that belives mabe its true and mabe its not so i called different companies and none of them new my information but yet im a winner i would think if im a winner wouldnt i be in all there computers i called the main 1888...i gave her my name and last name and she didnt even know who i was until i mentioned what i was calling for then she said oh okay ya you did win and it is real so she asked me for my info so i was thinking if i did won wouldnt they have it...so i just gave it to her anyways and it was the same questions as when i called the very first time so i hung up and im not going im just confussed i really wanted to go and i was going to go until i started calling different numbers and they all asked the same question as name last name address number where im located at shouldnt they know that....i think its too good to be true....

Hey, what is the scam part of this? They are giving out cruies and money. Are they trying to get information? i plan on getting what i can out of this, $49,000, $500 or a cruise, i'll take it all. i won round trip airline tickets two months ago, put that with a cruise and i'm in there...matter of fact, i will post an update after 12/18/09...

scam scam scam scam

BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG SCAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

i signed up for the sampler package, well long and behold, i called them up one day hoping to get a day or two during springbreak time. they told me that my sampler package needed to be paid in full before we could stay a single day. never been mentioned during tour. all i can say is, i'm glad i didnt buy into the contract. after this experiance, at the end of my sampler package, i'll never believe what they say. i might have lost, but gained a lot at the end.... sorry, but that's just how i feel.

Love me,

How would you like to be solicited to purchase a coke? Would you enjoy Coca Cola calling you at work, informing you that you've won a lifetime supply of their products, only to find out that you had to physically schedule an appointment with them, and learn what you really "won" was one soda bubble and the can took 3 hours to open? Not only that but Coca Cola isn't really Coca Cola, rather it's Blue Ribbon. This love me, is called false advertising.

Silverleaf can put up a billboard, magazine ad, web banners like every other respectful company. Unsolicited cold calling is a slimy and ineffective way to gain clientele. If people REALLY want a time share, they'll do their research like people research for any other product. If i want a Coke, I go to the store and get one.

BTW, there's a new law that when you sign up for an online service or purchase anything online that having a check box that offers other solicitations marked automatically yes (without user's action) is now illegal according to the newest spam laws. It's no longer a reputable business practice. Ask your legal dept. Expect lots of class action lawsuits S.L.

S.L. is not immune to the principles of basic supply and demand. Just be ethical. It's not that hard.

THANK YOU (in all CAPS)! Just received my Boarding Voucher for a 4-day cruise, an electronic passenger and baggage check claim AND the letter congratulating me--unemployed and can't pay my cell phone. AVC Travel is doing pretty good in our recession. If you read the very bottom "This material is used for the purpose of soliciting timeshare sales." I'd rather have the Mercedes.

I have kept almost every scrap of material that Silverleaf sent me. I have 2 of 3 awards notification letters, one blue and one yellow. Neither of them give a clue that they are anything more than awards notifications. Not a word about timeshare or Silverleaf on either of them.

I signed a contract with Silverleaf. I actually saw more than one offer. They started me at a $12k package that would have given me a week every year at one of their resorts (plus whatever other weeks I could reserve in advance for other facilities). I objected to the 17.36% interest rate that Silverleaf charges and I refused to sign that contract. So, the salesman offered me an $8k package for a week every-other year, again at 17.36% interest. In addition to the price, Silverleaf also charges a maintenance fee in the ballpark of $100 a month, depending on the contract. These are insane prices, and the contracts have no escape clause except what state law requires. So, state law needs to pressure Silverleaf to behave more ethically.

I was able to terminate my contract, because Silverleaf made some mistakes in their presentation that could have given me grounds for a criminal suit against them.

These guys are psychological headhunters. They fool you into thinking that it is a 90 minute tour and I walked out of that "cult" 5 hours later. Although I changed my mind about the "bad decision" that I made- the pricks tell me that I could not get my money back-although the clause states I have 6 days...im calling the corporate office next- I hope I have better luck. I did walk away 3 trips- hopefully these are not scams as well!

yes me too i sign up weeks ago at a mall to win a "Smart Car", and guess what? they called me yesterday saying that I had win the prize. At first I got excited because when the lady called she said if i had sign up at the mall and I say yes, then i thought i won?? wow .... but then they kept calling me .. so that made me think about it, so I call the number back and it was from "Awards Verification Center" and I google this and I found this website hahahaha oh lord =) .... the lady said I had to do an appointment and I did it, but now I know this is ''bulls....'' like everybody says oh my god!!! I was all excited, oh and the lady I talked to was SARAH and the number they told me to call back was 1800 720 5621 oh good thing I google it because i was actually going to the appointment and the place of the appmnt was about 2 hrs from here. thank you every body!!!!!!!

I read comment after comment from those that went in to Silverleaf Vacation Resorts out of pure greed. You received a phone call or a letter telling you that you won this great prize. It would have been so easy to say no or to file 13 the letter, but a change to win money, a new car, or even a trip is too hard to pass up. So they march in one after another blind, cripple, and crazy. Some take off work, some have no jobs at all, white, black, others, old, young, and yes even those in wheel chairs and with oxygen tanks. All behind greed! Many of you will stand in line and wait for hours for things that we have to pay for, doctor visits, sporting events, entertainment complaining the whole time. But Silverleaf tells everyone up front that there is no obligation to buy. So they show up with their attitudes sit down in beautiful waiting areas and are served by a hostess or allowed to serve themselves buffet style while they wait on a representative to greet them and take them on tour. Some are pleasant and some are just down right rude as if someone made them come. "WAKE UP PEOPLE, NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING" Just say no! They go into the sales area and are told how the program can work for them and/or their family. They are taken on a tour of the facility and then brought back to the sales area and asked, what they think of what they are being offered. I can easily say 90% of those toured say the same thing. I like it, I would use it, I just can not afford either the down payment or the monthly. A Silverleaf Sales Managers job is help and find a solution to their immediate problem. The problem and time wasted comes from all the web of lairs that are told when the manager is trying to help them. Look, no one comes to buy a 100% of the people that show up for the tours are there for one reason and one reason only. The free gifts! It is truly amazing how long a person will wait and what a person will endure for a free gift. Just leave. No one can make you stay. The doors are not locked. Everything it explained verbally and in writing and they still go home saying they were not told something. What a cop out. Truth be told, most are caught up in the moment and are not man or woman enough to omit it. So they result in making claims of "I wasn't told". Well bless your little dumb hearts. I have been a Silverleaf owner for 8 years now. My family and I take 3 vacations a year though RCI and take advantage of the weekend getaways to the 6 resorts in Texas at least 10-12 times a year. Our deed has been paid for 3 years now and just like a home even though it is paid for, it still has to been maintained and at $65.00 a month it is worth it to us. My wife is a very smart woman, a Tax Accountant for a Homeland Security Department. I remember driving out to Tyler, Texas for our tour. It was a good drive and we stopped along the way to eat and in Canton to look at some antiques. When we arrive at the Villages, I was surprised at how beautiful and clean the property was. We were greeted in about 20-30 minutes. In the meantime we enjoyed the refreshment and talked. The whole process was a little time consuming but painless. The Manager that helped us showed us different options to get involved that ranged from no way today to maybe. After it was all said and done, I told the Manager no. The only thing he said was "are you sure that we can not help you today". Boy did I feel high pressured! Before he could excuse himself my wife asked him if he could leave the table for a moment. After he left she told me that respected my decision as the head of our house. But she went on to say that I am ok sitting at home watching my sports package, but that she wanted for the two of us and my baby girl to vacation more. We called him back and brought the cheapest package which was a blue deed that only gave you excess mostly during the winter months. (You get what you pay for) People always want first class but want to pay coach. Today we own Red and can not be happier. No company is perfect and we have had a few bad experiences while visiting the resort even through RCI. Bad experiences happen but every single time someone handle the problem quickly and professionally. As of January 1, 2009 we have saved over $589.00 per year and will be willing it to our daughter in hopes that she will one day take our grand kids to Silverleaf Resorts property. I wish Silverleaf had a way to weed out sorry dumb greedy misinformed people like those who have posted comments on this site. Mostly all the negative comments spoke about how long it took. I would be willing to bet that most of the people that go to the tours do not make $20.00 an hour. That they don't get to sit in a beautiful facility that Silverleaf provides doing nothing but sitting listening and enjoying free refreshment. So do the math, is time is well compensated. Doing nothing but relaxing for 3 hours as some have said, free refreshments and gifts that are valued over a $1000.00. You must lead very boring and nonproductive lives that you would get angry about how long the tour took but you would talk about taking time out of your busy lives for free to so call warn people of your ignorance. Wow! Get a life and a clue.

I AM A NEW OWNER AND SO FAR WE LOVE IT!!!

I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT SILVERLEAF IS NOT A SCAM, THERE ARE LOTS OF PLACES OUT THERE THAT ARE, BUT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM.. THE DO EXACTLY EVERY THING THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO. YOU DO WIN TRIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO WHAT IF ITS NOT THE BIGGEST PRIZE THEY HAVE, THATS NOT THE POINT OF GOING! THE POINT IS TO GO WITH AN OPEN MIND AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER. HELLO PEOPLE! AND FOR THAT GIRL THAT IS AN OWNER AND SAYS THAT SHE DONT WANT TO MAKE HER PAYMENTS BECAUSE SHE IS BARLEY MAKING IT YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU DECIDED TO BUY THE DEED AND THEN EVEN AFTER THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTEN TO WHAT THEY TOLD YOU < BECAUSE THE EXPLIAN EVERYTHING VERY WELL AND IF YOU DONT ASK QUESTIONS THEN YOULL NEVER KNOW! THEY ARE VERY NICE PEOPLE, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. AND ITS DONT EVEN COST TOO MUCH AT ALL, SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST STUPID.. I RECOMEND YOU GOING AND TRYING IT FOR YOURSELF

Thanks for the yahoo and google web site.finally talk some sense to my son.

My husband and I have been a part of the Silverleaf family for over 21 years and we love it! We now own 2 weeks. We got into it with the little card too offering "free" gifts-those were are cheep dates in college it was or challenge to figure out the "catch" in the prize and then see if were were right we just went for fun but then liked what they had to offer. We had been to MANY timeshare presentations and Silverleaf was the first and only to have time in addition to your week to use and that sounded good to us! Like I said, we now own two weeks and really enjoy them very much. The bonus time is the best. Yes it's trick to get at busy times but if you look at your lifestyle honestly and have the ability to be flexible then it does work. We have eight kids and if it were not for silverleaf there is no way we could go on vacations. They do have pressure sales but that is how they make their living. Do your research and take a honest look at you life. If it is something you can afford and you will use it it is a great deal! Like anything else, it's not worth the money if you don't use it. As for the "scam" gifts-they are always what they promise, you just have to read all the information. A chance to win a car is not a car.
excuse my spelling and type o's it is late and I really do have eight children so I am not always on top o things-just a little crazy.

Wow! You started off saying you had better things to do then go online and look up message boards. Then you ended with I will be one a few times a week. HMMM? What's wrong business a little slow? Oh i mean can't find enough people to call 30 times a day to scam them out of their money. Once someone calls your number, even if you tried to say no, they would keep talking about all the amazing shit you can win. Even if you hang up they call you back twenty more times. Then you end up making an appointment just so you guys will stop calling at all hours every hour. Then if you cancel they ask why? Which is none of your business, but it's because you guys are scammers. Then they call another 20 times. Honestly, what the whole thing boils down to is harrassment. When someone says No thanks I am not interested. Your response, as any one who works answer phones would know, should be "OK, thank you anyways have a nice day" Learn the wordsand use them. Just a tip, if you had done this from the beginning you wouldn't have to read about your crappy company online, and then try and defend it. Ya your not bad mouthing anyone.....you just think their ridiculous. I won't be back to check this three times week like you. I hope my comment has helped fill your work day a llittle. Cuz people don't really like to be harrased and scammed. Good Luck and remember NO MEANS NO!!!!

Did you enter your info in a kiosk at the mall for a contest?

derrick johnson usa please cqall me 9092462961

im an employee at silverleaf and usually have better things to do then look up message boards and post negative comments about companies that offer stuff that i cant afford lol. i heard my co worker stefan was being critisized so i thought i’d throw my 2 cents in. for the person who posted above me no you did not screw yourself setting up the tour. all thats going to happen is your gonna take a 90 minute tour, either take advantage of what we have to offer or decline and enjoy a free vaction. how is that screwing yourself? i dont understand why people make a big deal about this. you guys are the ones who decided to call and set the appointment up. no one forced you to. and as far as the “red flags,” our operators have a quota to meet. ie.. for the amount of phone calls they recieve they have to convert 30% of those into appointments. so mr pickrell wanted to make sure you had that number so if your directions never came in you have the appropriate number to call so you do not mess up operators conversions. and we got your number like any other company does so if you dont wanna be called or get stuff in the mail dont sign up for stuff or do anything that will give your number out. its not a big deal anyway. if you dont want it say no or ask to be removed. like i said you can make your own decisions. you are not forced to set appointments up. why would you take your mistaskes out on us lol? and sometimes you do get new operators that dont completly know the full answer to certain questions so next time an op stumbles on a question, ask for a manager. and another thing, when we ask if your married or single or what your income is dont tell us one thing and get out there and say another or you will be denied. and dont take that out on us. thats your fault for lying. we do have certain qualifications. thats why we ask you on the phone so you dont come out here for nothing. if we were such a bad business, why are we still around and expanding? but anyway thats all i got. im not bad mouthing anyone just asking you guys to think about some of the stuff you say before saying it because its kind of ridiculous. if you have anymore questions please post them. im gonna start checking this a few times a week to try and answer question so people will stop the bs. thanks

went to their prenintation it cost me $40 in gas and what did I win a couple of cruses that will cost me over $2000.00 out of my own pocket which I can,t afford so like the idoit who wanted something for free! It,s not worth the pain I,ll have trying to get my money back! Better luck next time huh!!!

You guys are crazzy if you think you were going to win those huge prizes. i have two timshares through silverleaf and am very happy with them. Nothing is free but this is a good deal if you can afford it. keep complaining and try to get them shutdown. they must be doing something right...:)

We knew it was phony when we read the fine print that chances of winning the car or $500 cash is 1 in 53,000. We went to the presentation anyway because the $40 gift credit card would cover the gas, and we needed a nice drive and a good laugh.

Fortunately, I read the fine print concerning the credit card: Unless you call Bangladesh to cancel the card before the expiration date, you'll have to pay a $25 cancellation fee or a $36 annual membership fee. The interest rate on the card is undisclosed. I got a name and cancellation number fron the guy in Bangladesh, and hope that's the last we hear from them.

My aunt has gone to these seminars and "won" free trips, but i'm not sure if it was the same time share company. Anyway, I filled out the form in the mall, got the phone call from some lady telling me how I won the trip, etc. After I looked it up and confirmed that it was just a scam, I just ignored it. Funny thing is, the person on the phone told me that I only had three chances to attend a seminar but kept calling back after that time expired.

I just got a blue postcard saying all the same things you are all talkng about. Trip to vegas/orlando, $49,000, etc. My appointment is set for january 4th. What exactly is the scam? I dont have to travel all that far and i was promised a gaurenteed prize of $500 cash. Almost seems like its worth a shot. Anyone actually get anything from these jokers or what?

I am unfortunate that I too have purchased a "property" from the douche bags. I agree with everyone. Do not buy from them. Do not be one of the unfortunate people as I. I want out of this stupid thing so bad. I tried to call them to tell them that they are making me so friggin broke by taking the money out of my account every month and that it is very hard for me to feed my kids and they tell me that there is nothing they can do to help me and that if I wanted my payment lowered that I would have to refi with MY bank. Now how in the hell does this happen. When you sign up and purchase the property, you do not need anything, they do not check your credit, and then they tell me that I have to go through my bank and refinance. This is straight bull! If I fall behind on my payments, they will scar my credit report! WTF!!! I even asked the douche bag people if I could just give up my rights and have them find someone to buy the property off of me! And they told me that there is no way that they can do this. WTF! I am a very angry person and do not know where else to turn. Where do I look to, to see if they are indeed legit and that what they say is legit? Who can I talk to about this company. I really need to get out of this bind. I am no shape to have them screw up my credit due to their bullcrap property buying. Please help me someone!?!?!?

Has anybody went for the free trips, like i was going to do. if so was the trips at least legit?

I receive the same thing, but I did won a white BMW.
How can you explain that

Guys, Jesus Christ, at the bottom of the post card, it says, THIS MATERIAL IS USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF SOLICITING TIMESHARE SALES.

Come on. It's right at the bottom in bold print. That right there is your clue.

I'll give them credit, I didn't just throw it away like I do all the other solicitations, but it's right there at the bottom: "This is a solicitation."

I have had the blue cards come in the mail and the letter, and I decided to google as well! I figured out that when we went to the Texas State fair this past fall, I filled out something for a car drawing...I even asked them if my information gets sent out for mailing/scams...what a dumbass I was! Oh well....Lesson learned!!!

I just got the letter in the mail!! it has two boarding passes and the rest of the prizes that ur suppose to win. i was dumb enuff to call and schedule an appointment. so the las thing the lady asks is if im over 21. I AM NOT OVER 21!!! I WONT BE OVER 21 UNTIL NEXT YEAR!!!! so i searched silverleaf, avc, instant gold giveaway and here i am. i just called a second ago and acted a fool!! the lady says i cant cancel without giving my phone number to pull up my account. (and she has a bad attitude) she asks why and i told her i think its a scam. she starts boasting about blahblah and i said i didnt wanna find out. so she tells me some persons name who i actually went to high school with!!! i tell her that isnt me and i think my identity has been stolen. (its fun to play dumb) so she says she put the wrong number in by mistake. she asks my number again and claims that it isnt pulling up so she needs my name to look under. (clearly she is trying to acquire my name and number to put me on another stupid call list) so she says ma'am they are going to call u the day before your scheduled meeting day to confirm. i tell her that i will cancel whenever they call. she kept going on and on so i hung up...